Discussion:
How do I 'uninstall' my zip drive?
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Swart Simon
2006-03-13 22:40:25 UTC
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I've had an Iomega zip drive connected to my PC for
many years but no longer use it. It is an external
100MB drive connected to the PC's only parallel port,
with a dot matrix printer piggy-backed on. Operating
system: Windows 98.

The problem: I want to get rid of the zip drive.
However, if I simply unplug it and plug the printer
directly into the PC's parallel port, the printer no
longer works. The only way I can get the printer to
work is to keep the zip drive connected and powered up.
This is annoying.

Anyone here who can help?

[In case this is relevant, I added a scanner to my
system about 4 years ago. This was a parallel device
connected to the same parallel port - also piggy-backed
in some way - I have now forgotten exactly how. At the
time printer, zip drive, and scanner all worked 100%.
However, some time ago the old scanner failed and I
replaced it with an HP Scanjet. This is connected to
one of the USB ports of the PC. Ever since installing
the HP scanner I was no longer able to get the zip
drive to work, but by then I was already not using it
anymore.]

Simon
D***@ix.netcom.com
2006-03-13 23:52:05 UTC
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Post by Swart Simon
I've had an Iomega zip drive connected to my PC for
many years but no longer use it. It is an external
100MB drive connected to the PC's only parallel port,
with a dot matrix printer piggy-backed on. Operating
system: Windows 98.
The problem: I want to get rid of the zip drive.
However, if I simply unplug it and plug the printer
directly into the PC's parallel port, the printer no
longer works. The only way I can get the printer to
work is to keep the zip drive connected and powered up.
This is annoying.
Anyone here who can help?
You'll probably need to get into Device Manager and remove the Iomega
Parallel Port Interface from the SCSI controllers section there. With
the Zip drive disconnected, that will appear as not working properly,
and it may then adversely affect the operation of the parallel port.

Also, you should try uninstalling any Iomega software you might have
by using Add/Remove Programs in the Windows Control Panel.
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[In case this is relevant, I added a scanner to my
system about 4 years ago. This was a parallel device
connected to the same parallel port - also piggy-backed
in some way - I have now forgotten exactly how. At the
time printer, zip drive, and scanner all worked 100%.
However, some time ago the old scanner failed and I
replaced it with an HP Scanjet. This is connected to
one of the USB ports of the PC. Ever since installing
the HP scanner I was no longer able to get the zip
drive to work, but by then I was already not using it
anymore.]
I have an HP Scanjet with a USB connection, and I can't remember it
causing any problems with my Zip drives. However, I am not certain
that I ever tried using it at the same time I was using my old
parallel-port drive. It may be that your old parallel-port scanner
wasn't fully uninstalled; you might check Device Manager for some
remnant of it (sort of like Iomega's Parallel Port Interface).
Swart Simon
2006-03-14 19:08:53 UTC
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Post by Swart Simon
I've had an Iomega zip drive connected to my PC for
many years but no longer use it. It is an external
100MB drive connected to the PC's only parallel
port,
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Post by Swart Simon
with a dot matrix printer piggy-backed on.
Operating
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system: Windows 98.
The problem: I want to get rid of the zip drive.
However, if I simply unplug it and plug the printer
directly into the PC's parallel port, the printer no
longer works. The only way I can get the printer to
work is to keep the zip drive connected and powered
up.
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Post by Swart Simon
This is annoying.
Anyone here who can help?
You'll probably need to get into Device Manager and
remove the Iomega
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Parallel Port Interface from the SCSI controllers
section there. With
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the Zip drive disconnected, that will appear as not
working properly,
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and it may then adversely affect the operation of the
parallel port.
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Also, you should try uninstalling any Iomega software
you might have
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by using Add/Remove Programs in the Windows Control
Panel.


What you say makes a lot of sense, but I still have
some questions - forgive my ignorance.

1. If I go into Device Manager there is an item called
"SCSI controllers" and (when expanded) a sub-item
called "Iomega Parallel Port Zip Interface". When you
say "remove the Iomega Parallel Port Interface" does
that mean simply click on the items to highlight them,
and then click on the "Remove" button?

2. You say "it may then adversely affect the operation
of the parallel port". If it does can it be corrected?
I am happy to experiment, but need to be sure that I
can at least get back to where I started if the
experiment does not work!

3. I have a whole list of items in Add/Remove
Programs, but there is nothing that I recognise as
having anything to do with the Iomega software. Do you
know what it is called? (I certainly haven't removed
such software already.)

Simon
D***@ix.netcom.com
2006-03-14 22:22:13 UTC
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Post by Swart Simon
What you say makes a lot of sense, but I still have
some questions - forgive my ignorance.
1. If I go into Device Manager there is an item called
"SCSI controllers" and (when expanded) a sub-item
called "Iomega Parallel Port Zip Interface". When you
say "remove the Iomega Parallel Port Interface" does
that mean simply click on the items to highlight them,
and then click on the "Remove" button?
Yes.

You say "items". Do you have more than one to remove? Some versions
of Iomega's software would also add an entry for an Iomega Clik drive
which you didn't need if you didn't have one of those drives.
Post by Swart Simon
2. You say "it may then adversely affect the operation
of the parallel port". If it does can it be corrected?
I am happy to experiment, but need to be sure that I
can at least get back to where I started if the
experiment does not work!
You may need to reboot the computer after removing that entry in
Device Manager before the parallel port can work normally again.
If you no longer want to use the Zip drive, then there is no reason
why you would want to "get back to where I started", but it can be
re-installed should you ever want to use the Zip drive again.
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3. I have a whole list of items in Add/Remove
Programs, but there is nothing that I recognise as
having anything to do with the Iomega software. Do you
know what it is called? (I certainly haven't removed
such software already.)
You are apparently using a pretty old Iomega driver (I think they
removed the word Zip from that entry in Device Manager a long time
ago), and over the years, Iomega has changed the name of their
software. It has been called IomegaWare for quite a few years now.
I don't have a list of all the names they've used in the Add/Remove
Programs list. Most likely, it would be something starting with
Iomega. You might also look for something like Tools95 or ZipTools.

You could also check your Start/Programs menu. Older versions of
Iomega software would usually put some shortcuts there, and there
might be one for uninstalling it.
Swart Simon
2006-03-15 22:38:50 UTC
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Post by Swart Simon
What you say makes a lot of sense, but I still have
some questions - forgive my ignorance.
1. If I go into Device Manager there is an item
called
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"SCSI controllers" and (when expanded) a sub-item
called "Iomega Parallel Port Zip Interface". When
you
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say "remove the Iomega Parallel Port Interface" does
that mean simply click on the items to highlight
them,
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and then click on the "Remove" button?
Yes.
You say "items". Do you have more than one to
remove? Some versions
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of Iomega's software would also add an entry for an
Iomega Clik drive
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which you didn't need if you didn't have one of those
drives.
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2. You say "it may then adversely affect the
operation
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of the parallel port". If it does can it be
corrected?
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I am happy to experiment, but need to be sure that I
can at least get back to where I started if the
experiment does not work!
You may need to reboot the computer after removing
that entry in
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Device Manager before the parallel port can work
normally again.
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If you no longer want to use the Zip drive, then
there is no reason
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why you would want to "get back to where I started",
but it can be
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re-installed should you ever want to use the Zip
drive again.
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3. I have a whole list of items in Add/Remove
Programs, but there is nothing that I recognise as
having anything to do with the Iomega software. Do
you
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know what it is called? (I certainly haven't
removed
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such software already.)
You are apparently using a pretty old Iomega driver
(I think they
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removed the word Zip from that entry in Device
Manager a long time
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ago), and over the years, Iomega has changed the name
of their
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software. It has been called IomegaWare for quite a
few years now.
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I don't have a list of all the names they've used in
the Add/Remove
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Programs list. Most likely, it would be something
starting with
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Iomega. You might also look for something like
Tools95 or ZipTools.
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You could also check your Start/Programs menu. Older
versions of
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Iomega software would usually put some shortcuts
there, and there
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might be one for uninstalling it.
Thank you DeepOne.

I have done the following:

1. 'Removed' the Iomega Parallel Port Interface from
the SCSI controllers section (you're right - there was
only one item here). I could not find anything
relevant in the Add/Remove Programs list nor in the
Start/Programs menu to uninstall.

2. Disconnected the Iomega drive from the LPT1 port
and plugged the printer directly into this port.

3. Rebooted.

Unfortunately the printer now does not work. The
printer's 'Ready' light does not come on (as it
normally does) when I boot up. (It does come on as
soon as I unplug the printer cable from the PC.) If I
now plug the Iomega drive back into LPT1 and reconnect
the printer via the Iomega drive (and boot up again)
the printer still does not work.

I have a niggly feeling that I am missing something
very simple - i.e. that the problem is my lack of
knowledge of the basics.

Can you help?

Simon
D***@ix.netcom.com
2006-03-16 06:13:12 UTC
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Post by Swart Simon
1. 'Removed' the Iomega Parallel Port Interface from
the SCSI controllers section (you're right - there was
only one item here). I could not find anything
relevant in the Add/Remove Programs list nor in the
Start/Programs menu to uninstall.
2. Disconnected the Iomega drive from the LPT1 port
and plugged the printer directly into this port.
This should be done with everything powered off. There is supposedly
some risk (I don't know how great of a risk) of hardware damage if you
connect or disconnect things on a parallel port while power is on.
Post by Swart Simon
3. Rebooted.
Unfortunately the printer now does not work. The
printer's 'Ready' light does not come on (as it
normally does) when I boot up. (It does come on as
soon as I unplug the printer cable from the PC.) If I
now plug the Iomega drive back into LPT1 and reconnect
the printer via the Iomega drive (and boot up again)
the printer still does not work.
I have a niggly feeling that I am missing something
very simple - i.e. that the problem is my lack of
knowledge of the basics.
Can you help?
I don't know whether I can help, but maybe we can figure it out if we
keep discussing it.

I doubt that the Zip drive would be a factor at this point as long as
you don't have it connected. But you should probably check your
Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files to make sure you aren't loading any
real-mode (DOS) drivers from those files that might be interfering
with things in Win98.

What does Device Manager say about the operation of your parallel
port? Is it shown to be working properly? You might try removing the
parallel port as you did the Iomega Parallel Port Interface earlier.
Windows will probably re-install it when you reboot, but if it's not
there after rebooting, it can be re-installed manually via Add New
Hardware in the Control Panel.

The printer itself might need re-installing. You could delete it from
the Printers section of Control Panel and then re-install it via the
Add Printer icon there. You might want to check the manufacturer's
website to make sure you have the latest Win98 drivers for it before
doing that.
Swart Simon
2006-03-17 21:16:51 UTC
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1. 'Removed' the Iomega Parallel Port Interface
from
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Post by Swart Simon
the SCSI controllers section (you're right - there
was
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only one item here). I could not find anything
relevant in the Add/Remove Programs list nor in the
Start/Programs menu to uninstall.
2. Disconnected the Iomega drive from the LPT1 port
and plugged the printer directly into this port.
This should be done with everything powered off.
There is supposedly
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
some risk (I don't know how great of a risk) of
hardware damage if you
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
connect or disconnect things on a parallel port while
power is on.
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Post by Swart Simon
3. Rebooted.
Unfortunately the printer now does not work. The
printer's 'Ready' light does not come on (as it
normally does) when I boot up. (It does come on as
soon as I unplug the printer cable from the PC.) If
I
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Post by Swart Simon
now plug the Iomega drive back into LPT1 and
reconnect
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Post by Swart Simon
the printer via the Iomega drive (and boot up again)
the printer still does not work.
I have a niggly feeling that I am missing something
very simple - i.e. that the problem is my lack of
knowledge of the basics.
Can you help?
I don't know whether I can help, but maybe we can
figure it out if we
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
keep discussing it.
I doubt that the Zip drive would be a factor at this
point as long as
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
you don't have it connected. But you should probably
check your
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files to make sure you
aren't loading any
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
real-mode (DOS) drivers from those files that might
be interfering
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
with things in Win98.
What does Device Manager say about the operation of
your parallel
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
port? Is it shown to be working properly? You might
try removing the
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
parallel port as you did the Iomega Parallel Port
Interface earlier.
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Windows will probably re-install it when you reboot,
but if it's not
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
there after rebooting, it can be re-installed
manually via Add New
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Hardware in the Control Panel.
The printer itself might need re-installing. You
could delete it from
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
the Printers section of Control Panel and then
re-install it via the
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Add Printer icon there. You might want to check the
manufacturer's
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
website to make sure you have the latest Win98
drivers for it before
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
doing that.
Had a look at the Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files
and, although I must confess that much of it is 'Greek'
to me, it didn't look as if anything unusual is being
loaded.

According to Device Manager the parallel port was
working properly.

I then 'removed' the parallel port. When rebooting a
message came up asking me, if I remember correctly, to
insert the original Windows disc. Despite just about
turning my house upside down I could not find what
looked like the disc that I thought was required. All
I could find in the package I got with the machine
(when I bought it 5 years ago) were two CDs, the first
saying on the printed label: "3rd Party Chipset Series
Mainboard Utility CD - Chipsets/Audio/Network Drivers"
(and that didn't look like the right one), and the
second relating to the modem software. Thinking that
maybe the first disc was the one that was required I
inserted it. I then got some kind of error message
which, if I remember correctly, said something to the
effect that what it was looking for could not be found.
I got past the error message, whereafter the machine
worked normally (except of course for the printer). If
I now go into Device Manager, 'ECP Printer Port' which,
if I remember correctly, was listed under the item
'Ports (COM & LPT)' before I 'removed' it, is now
listed under a new (?) item called 'Other devices' with
a big yellow question mark.

I seem to be digging myself a hole which is getting
deeper and deeper. Maybe time to buy a new
machine.....

Simon
Swart Simon
2006-03-17 21:20:53 UTC
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Post by Swart Simon
1. 'Removed' the Iomega Parallel Port Interface
from
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Post by Swart Simon
the SCSI controllers section (you're right - there
was
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Post by Swart Simon
only one item here). I could not find anything
relevant in the Add/Remove Programs list nor in the
Start/Programs menu to uninstall.
2. Disconnected the Iomega drive from the LPT1 port
and plugged the printer directly into this port.
This should be done with everything powered off.
There is supposedly
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
some risk (I don't know how great of a risk) of
hardware damage if you
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
connect or disconnect things on a parallel port while
power is on.
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Post by Swart Simon
3. Rebooted.
Unfortunately the printer now does not work. The
printer's 'Ready' light does not come on (as it
normally does) when I boot up. (It does come on as
soon as I unplug the printer cable from the PC.) If
I
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Post by Swart Simon
now plug the Iomega drive back into LPT1 and
reconnect
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Post by Swart Simon
the printer via the Iomega drive (and boot up again)
the printer still does not work.
I have a niggly feeling that I am missing something
very simple - i.e. that the problem is my lack of
knowledge of the basics.
Can you help?
I don't know whether I can help, but maybe we can
figure it out if we
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
keep discussing it.
I doubt that the Zip drive would be a factor at this
point as long as
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
you don't have it connected. But you should probably
check your
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files to make sure you
aren't loading any
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
real-mode (DOS) drivers from those files that might
be interfering
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
with things in Win98.
What does Device Manager say about the operation of
your parallel
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
port? Is it shown to be working properly? You might
try removing the
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
parallel port as you did the Iomega Parallel Port
Interface earlier.
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Windows will probably re-install it when you reboot,
but if it's not
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
there after rebooting, it can be re-installed
manually via Add New
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Hardware in the Control Panel.
The printer itself might need re-installing. You
could delete it from
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
the Printers section of Control Panel and then
re-install it via the
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Add Printer icon there. You might want to check the
manufacturer's
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
website to make sure you have the latest Win98
drivers for it before
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
doing that.
Had a look at the Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files
and, although I must confess that much of it is 'Greek'
to me, it didn't look as if anything unusual is being
loaded.

According to Device Manager the parallel port was
working properly.

I then 'removed' the parallel port. When rebooting a
message came up asking me, if I remember correctly, to
insert the original Windows disc. Despite just about
turning my house upside down I could not find what
looked like the disc that I thought was required. All
I could find in the package I got with the machine
(when I bought it 5 years ago) were two CDs, the first
saying on the printed label: "3rd Party Chipset Series
Mainboard Utility CD - Chipsets/Audio/Network Drivers"
(and that didn't look like the right one), and the
second relating to the modem software. Thinking that
maybe the first disc was the one that was required I
inserted it. I then got some kind of error message
which, if I remember correctly, said something to the
effect that what it was looking for could not be found.
I got past the error message, whereafter the machine
worked normally (except of course for the printer). If
I now go into Device Manager, 'ECP Printer Port' which,
if I remember correctly, was listed under the item
'Ports (COM & LPT)' before I 'removed' it, is now
listed under a new (?) item called 'Other devices' with
a big yellow question mark.

I seem to be digging myself a hole which is getting
deeper and deeper. Maybe time to buy a new
machine.....

Simon
D***@ix.netcom.com
2006-03-17 23:39:35 UTC
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Post by Swart Simon
Had a look at the Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files
and, although I must confess that much of it is 'Greek'
to me, it didn't look as if anything unusual is being
loaded.
In most cases, those files should be pretty much empty on a Win98
system.
Post by Swart Simon
According to Device Manager the parallel port was
working properly.
I then 'removed' the parallel port. When rebooting a
message came up asking me, if I remember correctly, to
insert the original Windows disc. Despite just about
turning my house upside down I could not find what
looked like the disc that I thought was required.
You should have received a Windows 98 CD if the system came with
Windows 98 installed. If one was not included, you should probably
shop elsewhere next time you buy a computer.
Post by Swart Simon
All I could find in the package I got with the machine
(when I bought it 5 years ago) were two CDs, the first
saying on the printed label: "3rd Party Chipset Series
Mainboard Utility CD - Chipsets/Audio/Network Drivers"
(and that didn't look like the right one), and the
second relating to the modem software. Thinking that
maybe the first disc was the one that was required I
inserted it. I then got some kind of error message
which, if I remember correctly, said something to the
effect that what it was looking for could not be found.
There should be a way around this. Did it say what file it was
looking for? If you could point it to the location of that file, it
will probably work. It may be in your Windows\System directory since
you had it installed previously. You could use the Windows Find
utility (on the Start menu) to search the hard disk if you know the
name of the file it wants.
Post by Swart Simon
I got past the error message, whereafter the machine
worked normally (except of course for the printer). If
I now go into Device Manager, 'ECP Printer Port' which,
if I remember correctly, was listed under the item
'Ports (COM & LPT)' before I 'removed' it, is now
listed under a new (?) item called 'Other devices' with
a big yellow question mark.
I seem to be digging myself a hole which is getting
deeper and deeper. Maybe time to buy a new
machine.....
Well, you do seem to be using some pretty old stuff. But if this
problem you're having is the only reason you're considering upgrading,
it shouldn't be necessary.
Swart Simon
2006-03-20 20:08:33 UTC
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Had a look at the Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files
and, although I must confess that much of it is
'Greek'
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to me, it didn't look as if anything unusual is
being
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loaded.
In most cases, those files should be pretty much
empty on a Win98
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system.
Post by Swart Simon
According to Device Manager the parallel port was
working properly.
I then 'removed' the parallel port. When rebooting
a
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Post by Swart Simon
message came up asking me, if I remember correctly,
to
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Post by Swart Simon
insert the original Windows disc. Despite just
about
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Post by Swart Simon
turning my house upside down I could not find what
looked like the disc that I thought was required.
You should have received a Windows 98 CD if the
system came with
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Windows 98 installed. If one was not included, you
should probably
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
shop elsewhere next time you buy a computer.
Post by Swart Simon
All I could find in the package I got with the
machine
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Post by Swart Simon
(when I bought it 5 years ago) were two CDs, the
first
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Post by Swart Simon
saying on the printed label: "3rd Party Chipset
Series
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Post by Swart Simon
Mainboard Utility CD - Chipsets/Audio/Network
Drivers"
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Post by Swart Simon
(and that didn't look like the right one), and the
second relating to the modem software. Thinking
that
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maybe the first disc was the one that was required I
inserted it. I then got some kind of error message
which, if I remember correctly, said something to
the
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effect that what it was looking for could not be
found.
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There should be a way around this. Did it say what
file it was
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looking for? If you could point it to the location
of that file, it
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will probably work. It may be in your Windows\System
directory since
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you had it installed previously. You could use the
Windows Find
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utility (on the Start menu) to search the hard disk
if you know the
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name of the file it wants.
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I got past the error message, whereafter the machine
worked normally (except of course for the printer).
If
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I now go into Device Manager, 'ECP Printer Port'
which,
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if I remember correctly, was listed under the item
'Ports (COM & LPT)' before I 'removed' it, is now
listed under a new (?) item called 'Other devices'
with
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a big yellow question mark.
I seem to be digging myself a hole which is getting
deeper and deeper. Maybe time to buy a new
machine.....
Well, you do seem to be using some pretty old stuff.
But if this
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problem you're having is the only reason you're
considering upgrading,
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it shouldn't be necessary.
I have managed to re-install the parallel port, in the
way you have suggested. (Yes, it was from the
Windows\System directory.)

I have also deleted the printer in the Printers section
of Control Panel, and re-installed it. ( I had to do
this from the Windows\System directory as well, because
it was asking me to insert the Windows 98 CD.)

But, bad news, the printer still does not work - the
'ready' light does not come on if I reboot. (By the
way, it is an old Epson RX80 from the (don't laugh)
early 1980's - in my view a superb piece of
engineering.)

So, maybe there is a problem with the Autoexec.bat or
Config.sys files. To me they are not 'pretty much
empty' as you say they should be. I am copying the
contents hereunder. Can you tell if there is something
wrong here? What makes me doubt that there is, is that
the two files have exactly the same date and
time-of-day as all the other files in the directory
where they are located (Windows\Command\Ebd).

_Autoexec.bat:_

------------------------------------
@ECHO OFF
set EXPAND=YES
SET DIRCMD=/O:N
set LglDrv=27 * 26 Z 25 Y 24 X 23 W 22 V 21 U 20 T 19 S
18 R 17 Q
16 P 15
set LglDrv=%LglDrv% O 14 N 13 M 12 L 11 K 10 J 9 I 8 H
7 G 6 F 5
E 4 D 3 C
cls
call setramd.bat %LglDrv%
set temp=c:\
set tmp=c:\
path=%RAMD%:\;a:\;%CDROM%:\
copy command.com %RAMD%:\ > NUL
set comspec=%RAMD%:\command.com
copy extract.exe %RAMD%:\ > NUL
copy readme.txt %RAMD%:\ > NUL

:ERROR
IF EXIST ebd.cab GOTO EXT
echo Please insert Windows 98 Startup Disk 2
echo.
pause
GOTO ERROR

:EXT
%RAMD%:\extract /y /e /l %RAMD%: ebd.cab > NUL
echo The diagnostic tools were successfully loaded to
drive
%RAMD%.
echo.

IF "%config%"=="NOCD" GOTO QUIT
IF "%config%"=="HELP" GOTO HELP
LH %ramd%:\MSCDEX.EXE /D:mscd001 /L:%CDROM%
echo.
GOTO QUIT

:HELP
cls
call help.bat
echo Your computer will now restart and the startup
menu will
appear.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
restart.com
GOTO QUIT

:QUIT
echo To get help, type HELP and press ENTER.
echo.
rem clean up environment variables
set CDROM=
set LglDrv=

------------------------------------

_Config.sys_

[menu]
menuitem=CD, Start computer with CD-ROM support.
menuitem=NOCD, Start computer without CD-ROM support.
menuitem=HELP, View the Help file.
menudefault=CD,30
menucolor=7,0

[CD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off
device=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001
device=btdosm.sys
device=flashpt.sys
device=btcdrom.sys /D:mscd001
device=aspi2dos.sys
device=aspi8dos.sys
device=aspi4dos.sys
device=aspi8u2.sys
device=aspicd.sys /D:mscd001

[NOCD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off

[HELP]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off

[COMMON]
files=10
buffers=10
dos=high,umb
stacks=9,256
devicehigh=ramdrive.sys /E 2048
lastdrive=z

------------------------------------

I see there is another Config.sys file (in C:\), but
this is completely empty.

Simon
D***@ix.netcom.com
2006-03-21 00:21:35 UTC
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Post by Swart Simon
I have managed to re-install the parallel port, in the
way you have suggested. (Yes, it was from the
Windows\System directory.)
I have also deleted the printer in the Printers section
of Control Panel, and re-installed it. ( I had to do
this from the Windows\System directory as well, because
it was asking me to insert the Windows 98 CD.)
But, bad news, the printer still does not work - the
'ready' light does not come on if I reboot. (By the
way, it is an old Epson RX80 from the (don't laugh)
early 1980's - in my view a superb piece of
engineering.)
Doesn't the printer have an "Online" button or something like that?
What happens if you press it?

I wonder if you have some sort of hardware problem. If you have
another computer you could try, you should connect the printer (use
the same cable) to that to verify that it works. If it works on
another computer, then your computer's parallel port would be suspect.

If you don't have access to another computer, it would be worthwhile
to try another cable if you have another one lying around.
Post by Swart Simon
So, maybe there is a problem with the Autoexec.bat or
Config.sys files. To me they are not 'pretty much
empty' as you say they should be. I am copying the
contents hereunder. Can you tell if there is something
wrong here? What makes me doubt that there is, is that
the two files have exactly the same date and
time-of-day as all the other files in the directory
where they are located (Windows\Command\Ebd).
The Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files which are executed during the
boot process are located in the root directory (C:\). The ones you
listed look like they may have come from the boot floppy which comes
with Win98, but they aren't being used from that directory. Since you
say the Config.sys in the root directory is empty, it wouldn't be
causing any problems.
Swart Simon
2006-03-26 19:16:32 UTC
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Post by Swart Simon
I have managed to re-install the parallel port, in
the
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Post by Swart Simon
way you have suggested. (Yes, it was from the
Windows\System directory.)
I have also deleted the printer in the Printers
section
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Post by Swart Simon
of Control Panel, and re-installed it. ( I had to
do
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Post by Swart Simon
this from the Windows\System directory as well,
because
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Post by Swart Simon
it was asking me to insert the Windows 98 CD.)
But, bad news, the printer still does not work - the
'ready' light does not come on if I reboot. (By the
way, it is an old Epson RX80 from the (don't laugh)
early 1980's - in my view a superb piece of
engineering.)
Doesn't the printer have an "Online" button or
something like that?
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What happens if you press it?
I wonder if you have some sort of hardware problem.
If you have
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another computer you could try, you should connect
the printer (use
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the same cable) to that to verify that it works. If
it works on
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another computer, then your computer's parallel port
would be suspect.
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If you don't have access to another computer, it
would be worthwhile
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to try another cable if you have another one lying
around.
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Post by Swart Simon
So, maybe there is a problem with the Autoexec.bat
or
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Config.sys files. To me they are not 'pretty much
empty' as you say they should be. I am copying the
contents hereunder. Can you tell if there is
something
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wrong here? What makes me doubt that there is, is
that
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the two files have exactly the same date and
time-of-day as all the other files in the directory
where they are located (Windows\Command\Ebd).
The Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files which are
executed during the
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boot process are located in the root directory (C:\).
The ones you
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listed look like they may have come from the boot
floppy which comes
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with Win98, but they aren't being used from that
directory. Since you
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say the Config.sys in the root directory is empty, it
wouldn't be
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causing any problems.
Problem solved, and I think you were right in that it
was a hardware problem with the parallel port.

I first tried another printer cable as you have
suggested - but this did not fix the problem. I then
tracked down the pin on the parallel port that (by
being 'low') was causing the 'ready' light on the
printer to go off, and cut the corresponding wire of
the cable. Once I had done that the printer was
working fine, except that it was doubling every line
feed. I then recalled that, a while ago, the printer
mysteriously, half-way through printing a document,
also started doubling the line feeds. At that time,
after fiddling around a bit with the printer cable and
so, the problem disappeared just as mysteriously as it
had appeared. Looking back now, the parallel port must
have been starting to go on the blink then, and finally
packed up just as I was trying to get rid of the Zip
drive.

I went and bought an interface card with a parallel
port, installed it as LPT2, and everything is now back
in working order. It is the first time I've done this
kind of thing and feel quite proud of myself.

Incidentally, when I opened the PC box I found the
parallel port to be packed with dust. It is located
right next to the heat sink and little fan that sit on
the CPU, and in the flow path of the ventilation air.

I have learnt a tremendous lot during this exercise.

Thank you for all your help.

Simon
Swart Simon
2006-03-26 20:15:59 UTC
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Post by Swart Simon
I have managed to re-install the parallel port, in
the
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Post by Swart Simon
way you have suggested. (Yes, it was from the
Windows\System directory.)
I have also deleted the printer in the Printers
section
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Post by Swart Simon
of Control Panel, and re-installed it. ( I had to
do
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Post by Swart Simon
this from the Windows\System directory as well,
because
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Post by Swart Simon
it was asking me to insert the Windows 98 CD.)
But, bad news, the printer still does not work - the
'ready' light does not come on if I reboot. (By the
way, it is an old Epson RX80 from the (don't laugh)
early 1980's - in my view a superb piece of
engineering.)
Doesn't the printer have an "Online" button or
something like that?
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
What happens if you press it?
I wonder if you have some sort of hardware problem.
If you have
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
another computer you could try, you should connect
the printer (use
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
the same cable) to that to verify that it works. If
it works on
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
another computer, then your computer's parallel port
would be suspect.
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
If you don't have access to another computer, it
would be worthwhile
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
to try another cable if you have another one lying
around.
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Post by Swart Simon
So, maybe there is a problem with the Autoexec.bat
or
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Post by Swart Simon
Config.sys files. To me they are not 'pretty much
empty' as you say they should be. I am copying the
contents hereunder. Can you tell if there is
something
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Post by Swart Simon
wrong here? What makes me doubt that there is, is
that
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
Post by Swart Simon
the two files have exactly the same date and
time-of-day as all the other files in the directory
where they are located (Windows\Command\Ebd).
The Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files which are
executed during the
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
boot process are located in the root directory (C:\).
The ones you
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
listed look like they may have come from the boot
floppy which comes
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
with Win98, but they aren't being used from that
directory. Since you
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
say the Config.sys in the root directory is empty, it
wouldn't be
Post by D***@ix.netcom.com
causing any problems.
Problem solved, and I think you were right in that it
was a hardware problem with the parallel port.

I first tried another printer cable as you have
suggested - but this did not fix the problem. I then
tracked down the pin on the parallel port that (by
being 'low') was causing the 'ready' light on the
printer to go off, and cut the corresponding wire of
the cable. Once I had done that the printer was
working fine, except that it was doubling every line
feed. I then recalled that, a while ago, the printer
mysteriously, half-way through printing a document,
also started doubling the line feeds. At that time,
after fiddling around a bit with the printer cable and
so, the problem disappeared just as mysteriously as it
had appeared. Looking back now, the parallel port must
have been starting to go on the blink then, and finally
packed up just as I was trying to get rid of the Zip
drive.

I went and bought an interface card with a parallel
port, installed it as LPT2, and everything is now back
in working order. It is the first time I've done this
kind of thing and feel quite proud of myself.

Incidentally, when I opened the PC box I found the
parallel port to be packed with dust. It is located
right next to the heat sink and little fan that sit on
the CPU, and in the flow path of the ventilation air.

I have learnt a tremendous lot during this exercise.

Thank you for all your help.

Simon

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